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101 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:19 pm

MrsCK


The Dow Jones dropped a record 777 points on September 29, 2008.

Tomorrow 3 years...guess what...trillions dumped to stop the free fall...IT DIDN'T WORK!!!

102 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:03 pm

chevy#3


MrsCK wrote:The Dow Jones dropped a record 777 points on September 29, 2008.

Tomorrow 3 years...guess what...trillions dumped to stop the free fall...IT DIDN'T WORK!!!
But whats scary is it's manageable when they/gangsters can print debt and keep bailing out other crooked debt!

103 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:18 pm

azdinar


Have not seen anything new on the lawsuit with atty Hodge? Wonder what is happening with that?


104 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:46 pm

chevy#3


From what i read today the funds will be in the trustee's hands by week's end! we'll see!

105 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:37 pm

azdinar


OOh the old checks in the mail. Smile

106 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:45 am

MrsCK


THIS is from Thursday in Germany...so far zip for today, friday:

Neu 2011-09-29:

[7:15] reader's letter - The Federal Government must in my opinion (perhaps on the national holiday?) Make only the following:


Announce large amounts to buy gold (and gold at the time ALREADY PURCHASED, THERE HAVE ALSO BEEN PHYSICALLY, yes they should have "filled in" some time before secretly gold).

Before the world media to announce exit from the euro and thereby already own heart the new DM.

Only these two things. This must only come as a complete surprise. Without warning. And of course, even without the "jungle drums"!

So you could do that anyway if you would dare. Going this route this weekend?

Information available ... Customs is actively states anticipate "hot weeks" secret laws are already well prepared and ready in the drawer ..... The DM is also a very long finish.

In May of 2010 (and in September 2011?) You did not dare. Maybe now soon ......

But as I said this can only succeed if it comes with absolutely no warning and no "jungle drums" so that it can be "turned off" not back .....

We know anyway that Germany can not guarantee 211 billion euros. The only think anyway Bond monkeys and similar species. (MBA-types might as well). But the vote in the Bundestag may possibly only be a distraction .....

The courage of the policy is very limited, especially given the pressure from the United States. But after the €-crash warnings from Italy and the report in the Guardian yesterday that the Irishman just one pound of new print - "just in case" - hahaha, everything is possible. One thing is clear: the whole world knows now that the euro soon dissolves.


[16:30] Interesting article: SUPER HOT: Insider Reports United Printing Up Marks wants to Abandon €

News to expect in the coming days and weeks ...

• The Germans announce they are re-introducing the German mark. They have already ordered the new currency and asked that the printers hurry up

To get a sense on how deep in insider she is, check out this gossip so she reports:

Apparently, Lagarde Trichet and spent a day after Jackson Hole, in a heated argument with debt Lagarde pushing for a more realistic assessment of the euro zone debt and of the true condition of bank exposures to the euro zone. Trichet, in contrast, believe that it is possible to buy time and lead the market to believe a resolution is possible. Lagarde's view is that many European banks are insolvent and Fundamentally that's why they are directly taking liquidity from the ECB. This is even before the defaults occur. Trichet's view is that the banks might be able to earn their way back to health if they had more time. The cynical view is that Trichet does not want the euro to end or a bank crisis on his watch. It is said that this was the principal issue that led to Jurgen Stark's resignation: Strong and Lagarde favor facing the facts as soon as possible Whereas Trichet does not want his legacy marred and or he believe that it is always worth buying a little more time.

Once again the public has got into that state € prints a national currency - what do we know this for a long time. Woe to the financial markets know that and respond in a broad front ...

That with the "Gossip" could are correct. End of October comes from Trichet, but he does not want to be the gravedigger of the euro. The only reason not to dissolve the €? apparently there are those who say that the banks no longer hold out so long and want the same WR.


Reader Question: Do you still believe that given the German political and whistles, the traitor to the series?

There is no better time for the resolution of the Euro as this weekend. All believe that the euro is again saved, especially the Bond apes. Next week, the crisis can strike again fully emerge or even a wide-scale bank run. It is unlikely that the withdrawal takes place next weekend, but nothing is ruled out.

PS: if the Euro is now resolved, or until after Trichet's taste is irrelevant. His name will be linked forever with this disaster currency.



[20:15] reader comment: this would be the hammer comes this weekend when the currency reform.

In any case, the lady (the name sounds female) and should have a real insider information.

So if that is all real, including the information where it has worked everywhere and who to vote for then its a house number.

Then we get probably the end of October to see the end of the euro.

If that happens then of course the dollar is getting into trouble. Come, therefore, the information that Obama is a nervous breakdown may be near? He feels the end?

NORMALLY WOULD HAVE ON THE MARKET NOW TOMORROW "PIPPA" REACT. Then no other choice than this weekend .....

Yes, a decent crash tomorrow - after the discovery of the DM-pressure - would be good. WE This is probably the last opportunity to make an orderly WR. Later only chaos reigns and the lanterns are supplied to a different purpose. Do not forget those at the top want to stay on top. And do not forget, 2011 is no longer in 2008. After the 2008 crisis it was decided to dissolve the € on demand.

[21:30] Here are more: News to expect in the coming days and weeks



[21:30] reader comment:

if the readers of your page, the linked pages were read more accurately, they would find that the contribution Ms Malmgren on 13 September has published. It is therefore unlikely that the markets will react tomorrow on a two-week-old speech!

That's not important, important is when it comes to certain media. EconomicPolicyJournal.com has taken it and can go on from here.

[21:45] comments AT readers - Until the currency reform will take time.

Just today the establishment has once again saved his butt. The market certainly seems to believe it. The longer you can delay Währungsrefrom, the better for the government. And maybe - it is hoped
- Can indeed avoid the hard landing at all (which should be at least the politicians think anyone who can count to 3 but of course, knows that a hard landing is inevitable.).

What we must never forget however: the ECB can provide infinite amounts of money. Even a bank can be run on the system. I see three potential scenarios for currency reform:

1st A so-called "credit event" such as a Greece-default could tear down some banks. That would have to happen within the next 6 months, otherwise all banks have already reduced their exposure completely. A GR-default takes the banks to equity - that is something entirely different than cash - and an affront to the first domino.
2nd The Fed will be forced to stop the dollar funding for the Europeans. Then it is damn close for a couple of banks.
3rd Long-term scenario: crack-up boom. People lose confidence in the currency, spend it faster and handle money like a hot potato. The resulting increase in velocity of circulation leads to hyperinflation and eventually crash.

Without first or 2 but it may take even longer. For the currency reform, it needs an external event, otherwise nothing happens. My opinion.

What matters is the bond market. If this escapes from Italy and the Euro, no one can make something. By agreeing to ESFS expansion in Germany situation has become precarious, it could also be regarded as uncertain League, it's ringing out.

Do not forget we have a 2011 banking crisis and a state crisis, not just a banking crisis. Let's see what happens. This is probably the last chance for an orderly WR, but we will let it pass.


So what germany is saying over there IF the Global currency reform doesn't go this weekend in a "control or orderly" fashion, which is "their" only chance to do it orderly like, then come next week CHAOS!!! for October and I hope they don't try and change the global currency reform while it is HUGE CHAOS! We wait and see..........

107 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:52 am

MrsCK


Insider info: it is expected that the system can not survive in October. About the situation at the Italo-big banks is also equally critical.


aggggggggggggg THEY said the same thing for SEPTEMBER!!!

108 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:02 pm

MrsCK


KICK THE CAN KICK THE CAN...UNreal!!!

Eurozone finance ministers postponed until November (NYT) a decision on releasing the next tranche of last year's €110 billion EU and IMF Greek bailout. Despite assertions by Greece that it will run out of funds by mid-October if it does not receive the €8 billion installment, the finance ministers said they would first push for more austerity measures from the indebted state.

The ministers also said they would wait for a verdict from representatives of the European Commission, the European Central Bank, and the IMF--the so-called troika--to determine Greece's eligibility for more funding. The chair of the eurozone finance ministers, Luxembourg Prime Minister Jean-Claude Juncker, insisted Greece had the financial means (DeutscheWelle) to get through to November.

Juncker added that the ministers were reassessing the terms (Reuters) of a € 109 billion second Greek bailout, tentatively agreed upon in July. Ministers are considering more private-sector involvement, which could amount to an orderly restructuring of Greek debt.

European bank stocks, heavily exposed to eurozone sovereign debt, continued to fall. Shares in French-Belgian bank Dexia (WSJ) dropped 17 percent, as the French and Belgian governments said they would take all necessary measures to shore up the bank.

109 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:06 pm

MrsCK


SHUMER is backkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk...what a JOKE!!

China warned the United States that it could incite a trade war (FT) between the two countries if the U.S. Congress passes a bill forcing the Chinese yuan to appreciate. U.S. lawmakers initiated debate yesterday over a measure that would impose tariffs on Chinese imports in an effort to punish Beijing for devaluing its currency.

110 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:09 am

MrsCK


WHEN NO ONE CURRENCY REFORM IN SLOVAKIA DELIVERY ON FRIDAY?

can have if you now more and more reports are also the German Euro exit reads in it then you still almost say with some certainty that if the vote ends with a "No" that then on Friday, "goes up the bomb" - the German Euro exit talk is announced .

Now it is already Tuesday afternoon. Not much time to act, I'd say.


No, the €-exits come when banks crash and €. That is, if the market manipulations fail, what can happen at any time.

111 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:10 am

MrsCK


Tuesday, October 11, 2011
France and Germany ready to abound the €

Bob Chapman: France and Germany are getting ready to abandon the failing € and go back to their previous national currencies, in fact both France and Germany have starter to respectively re-print the franc and the German Mark.

Gold and Silver prices are ready to shoot up again as it seems that JPM and HSBC have already covered most of their short positions in silver so there is no more reasons for them to knock the price down, expect silver to go back up over $ 50/oz and gold to over $ 2200/oz and may be $ 300/oz before the next February, they just can not hold the market down for ever says Bob Chapman ....

112 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:02 pm

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MrsCK wrote:Tuesday, October 11, 2011
France and Germany ready to abound the €

Bob Chapman: France and Germany are getting ready to abandon the failing € and go back to their previous national currencies, in fact both France and Germany have starter to respectively re-print the franc and the German Mark.

Gold and Silver prices are ready to shoot up again as it seems that JPM and HSBC have already covered most of their short positions in silver so there is no more reasons for them to knock the price down, expect silver to go back up over $ 50/oz and gold to over $ 2200/oz and may be $ 300/oz before the next February, they just can not hold the market down for ever says Bob Chapman ....


may not forever....but they've been talking this same stuff for over three years, Germany and France are dragging their ass as bad as Iraq

113 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:38 pm

MrsCK


From Germany today....not much at all going on...so we are back to a waiting period...aggggg

Europe should fail if this is what we can expect to happen - European banks will crash and burn and take down major U.S. banks, Which are already walking wounded basket cases anyway. We are likely to see a lengthy unscheduled "bank holiday" - banks want to slam their doors and if your money is quietly inside their vaults then you are out of luck. Major disruptions in supply and distribution of food and fuel in Particular will trigger general panic, and riots and mob violence will spread rapidly - what we have seen on TV happening in Greece will suddenly happen on the streets of the U.S. and many other countries. Stock Markets will crash in a manner that will make 2008 seem like a "walk in the park." Virtually every asset class and investment will crater - especially commodities, stocks and real estate. The euro will be vaporized. The tidal wave of funds liberated by this mass panic are going to have to go somewhere and normally we would expect them to go into the U.S. dollar and Treasuries, but with U.S. banks failing even this can not be relied upon.

And then the gold price explodes. Soon in this theater.

It is becoming more and more obvious that Sarkozy is partly responsible for the collapse of Dexia, he is desperately trying to Prevent the collapse of other French banks in Which He interfered. He is not saving Greece, the EU or € - he is saving his own neck.

He is putting enormous pressure on Merkel and is kissing her feet because she is the only option he has left other than losing France's triple A rating. Fortunately for the Merkel Deutsch Supreme Court decided that parliament must have a say in this tragic-comic opera.

PS: insider info from the USA: There is no hope.

114 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:56 am

MrsCK


Is the Rothschild banking monopoly finally about to be dismantled?
by Benjamin Fulford, November 1, 2011

The situation in Europe is making it clear to all but the most brainwashed that something historical is taking place. What is happening is that the criminal element at the very top of the Western power structure, especially at the very top of the financial system, has been cut off from their money printing machine. As a result, the IMF and the major European and US money center banks are insolvent. No amount of lying or paper shuffling or propaganda is going to hide this fundamental truth. The governments of Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Italy etc. know that the debts they supposedly owe to bankers were created through fraudulent book entries and thus do not have to be repaid. That is why the banks suddenly announced that Greece only had to pay back 50% of their debt even though such a write off would destroy them. They are hoping for a tax payer bail-out that is just not going to happen. It is game over. The Rothschild banking nightmare is ending.

Even the highly brainwashed priesthood known as Western financial gurus and journalists are starting to realize that something is not right. The big announcement by European governments of a “solution” to the Greek and Euro crises is a case in point. If you analyze the announcement you realize that essentially the banks and governments are saying the banks will pay for 50% of the Greek debt with money they do not have. The governments say they will pay for it by “leveraging” the money they already have. They do not say who is going to be dumb enough to finance a bankrupt gambler who wants to quadruple his risk.

Please note that as soon as the “solution” to the crisis was announced, high level begging missions were sent to Asia, including French President Sarkozy. Why would they need to go to Asia to ask for money if they had come up with a solution?

The IMF, supposedly the world’s “lender of last resort” is also continuing to admit they have no money. The reason is that the IMF itself cannot prove that its money comes from legitimate sources.

The fact of the matter is that the criminal part of the world’s financial system is falling apart. The IMF will soon cease to be solvent. The same is true of the World Bank. The BIS is also in trouble. In fact, the entire Rothschild banking monopoly is in deep trouble.

The freeze of “trading platforms” remains in place, meaning that the controllers of the fiat system can no longer pump new money into the system. The best they can do is reshuffle money that is already in the system. New money will only start entering the global financial system once the new asset-backed system is in place.

“The IMF and the World Bank existed to force the Rothschild banking system on the countries of the world,” is how an extremely senior Chinese official explained the situation. “Our goal is to reboot the system, to start over and set all the parameters in a fair way so that all countries benefit from the pooled assets of the people of the world and not just Europe and North America,” he continued.

The original system was meant to have been run by the Swiss and protected by the Americans, he continued. “The basic failure was that the system of checks and balances failed and the people who were supposed to protect the system ended up abusing it,” he added.

What is now going to happen is that the 100 countries that have so far joined the new system started in Monaco in August, are going to implement the new system in four stages, according to a White Dragon Society source. The US military and agencies will be involved in this process right from the beginning, he added. Efforts to intimidate generals by using corrupt institutions like the IRS to try to repossess their homes will backfire and lead to criminal prosecutions.

The first step will be a lawsuit that will be filed before November 15th against the individuals and groups who abused the Federal Reserve Board system. This will lead to liens being placed against many of the largest financial institutions in the world, according to the filers. There will also be mass arrests. (ABOUT DANG TIME!!)

The other steps have yet to be disclosed. However, some basic truths are already known. First of all, all honest businessmen and bankers worldwide will have nothing to worry about. Second of all, the money created through derivatives fraud will be eliminated from the books, even if that means bankrupting many of the big Western financial institutions. Third, major historical financial injustices will be addressed and stolen monies and assets will be returned to their rightful owners. This will be good news for the vast majority of Western citizens as well as the inhabitants of long exploited regions like Africa.

The international banking and payment settlements systems will remain in place after the reboot. This will mean the minimum possible disruption to legitimate business.

However, as mentioned earlier, the international institutions set up and controlled by a small group of Western oligarchs after World War 2 will be totally revamped.

115 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:44 pm

Panhead

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woulda been nice a couple of Novembers ago.....just sayin.

116 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:51 am

67 Warrior

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Just saw something that I had to post. I was watching "Morning Joe" on MSNBC (I know communist news..LOL) They had on Senator Shelby from Alabama and were discussing World Finance. Sen. Shelby acknowledged the need for world finance reform and commented (almost tongue in cheek) that if we get Basel III ratified, we could get things somewhat squared away.. I almost fell out of the real nice recliner I was sitting it..And had coffee in my nose.... WOW .. CK, how about that comment.. God Bless us all.. 67

117 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:49 am

MrsCK


67 Warrior wrote:Just saw something that I had to post. I was watching "Morning Joe" on MSNBC (I know communist news..LOL) They had on Senator Shelby from Alabama and were discussing World Finance. Sen. Shelby acknowledged the need for world finance reform and commented (almost tongue in cheek) that if we get Basel III ratified, we could get things somewhat squared away.. I almost fell out of the real nice recliner I was sitting it..And had coffee in my nose.... WOW .. CK, how about that comment.. God Bless us all.. 67

HECK YA!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOW!!! About time folks make it public what we been saying for a long time!!!

Now they need to DO IT!!

118 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:52 am

MrsCK


FROM GERMANY TODAY:

The meltdown process is likely to be already under way. Whether they can be stopped will show in the next few days. Add to this the fallout from MF Global in derivatives. At the moment, probably Liquditätsknappheit absolute rule, all commodities and stocks go down. Once again, the gold price rises significantly, it is only the beginning: the escape from the system.

All should prepare now for the downfall of the financial system, the demise of the euro, the closure of banks. What President Sarkozy said last week on television - if the summit had failed, would the whole thing collapses - occurs now. How many days will the system manipulators their system is still able, at the moment unknown. But we should expect that this week is still out there.

We have discussed this a few times over the last year and as Greece begins to show signs of defection, it is perhaps worth considering what a spoiled and chided sovereign might do in a temper tantrum. Peter Tchir, of TF Market Advisors, puts it best this morning: "Everything I have read over the past couple of weeks coming out of Italy, tells me that if there was one country prepared to" screw "the € and go it alone, it would be Italy. They do not like Merkozy treating them like children, and they have a big enough economy that would make a dirt cheap lire exports possible ".

A side note of EU banks:

These Functions Button in accounts have been removed:
- International transfer
- Eu standard bank transfer
- SEPA Credit Transfer

That is a fact! for 2 days!

119 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:32 pm

MrsCK


CMKX LAND on their suit...GO HODGES!!

Well -- the motion was finally decided... this past Thursday, October 27; however, the Court sided against the SEC and the Bivens is moving forward!

Here's the link to the filing and verbiage below:

http://i41.tinypic.com/2u5cok3.jpg

The motion for summary affirmance of this appeal is denied without prejudice to renewal following the filing of the opening brief. See United States v. Harris, 846 F.2d 50 (9th Cir. 1988). The request to stay the briefing schedule pending disposition of the motion to dismiss is denied as unnecessary. See 9th Cir. R. 27-11. The opening brief and excerpts of record are due December 5, 2011; the answering brief is due January 4, 2012; and the optional reply is due within 14 days after service of the answering brief.


So...

1) Al needs to file his opening brief by December 5...

2) Our case will continue to go public, unless settlement/payment occurs prior...

3) According to a Shareholder who spoke to Al yesterday... the SEC does not want what Al is going to provide in his brief to go public...

4) Interestingly, the SEC and DOJ still have active websites on other cases moving forward on CMKX (to include an active link to the Investor Claims Fund distribution SEC Website):

SEC: http://www.sec.gov/divisions/enforce/claims/cmkmopinion062309.htm (see a link in the second paragraph for the Investor Claims Fund info)

DOJ: http://www.justice.gov/usao/nv/victim_witness/case_updates.html

5) The company is still active... pending release of information to the Shareholders of a merger with NewCorp and development of existing claims: http://www.cmkmdiamondsinc.com/

6) Shareholders are listed with a reputable Transfer Agent (why would that be if the company was dead?): http://www.transferonline.com/

120 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:29 pm

MrsCK



YA'LL THIS IS A GREAT SIGN!!! that ACCA showed up on CMKXland!!!!! ACCA was part of the sting! LOVE IT! LOVE IT! LOVE IT!

We might finally be off this ride in NOVEMBER!!!

CK


ACCA

re: The Weekly Buzz 10/31
« Reply #3 Today at 5:53pm » Howardhughes
Hey acca bob sounds like you back in the day when you talked.you and the team must be pleased.........hh
"My understanding...
-the funds are in place.
-the funds were scheduled for delivery this past week.
-the government delayed the release.
-the delivery should occur any time now.
-Attorney Hodges will inform the Shareholders when there is definite confirmation.
I know how difficult this is for the Shareholders. Hopefully, the wait will be over shortly.
Thank you,
BHollenegg
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Procmkm
BH Is Doing A Fine Job.
Also, The Majority Of These Posts (Content) Will Change Dramatically Before December Of This Year.

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O2bayankee
ACCA, you showing up here after a prolonged
absence on Halloween night, is this a trick or a treat?
GLTA!
O2b

Procmkm
Treat
BH Is Doing A Fine Job.

Also, The Majority Of These Posts (Content) Will Change Dramatically Before December Of This Year.
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Today at 5:49pm, medicalpete wrote:
Thank you Acca
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Procmkm
You Are Welcome, I Was Not Anticipating This Phone Call This Afternoon And Caught Me By Surprise, I Really Need To Collect My Thoughts And Take A Huge Breath Before I Go Into Detail As To What Transpired During This
Call.

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Procmkm
Glad To Be Back Funado, Yes, ROI This
November

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Today at 6:02pm, funado wrote:
Thanks Acca!
Will it be Fines and Penalties (F&P)?
Or the trust funds?
Or both?
Do you have any figures for either?
Funado
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Procmkm
Info Just Trickling In, Tons Of Legal Jargon I Am Not Professed In, Will Have To Give Me Some Time To Decipher It All.


Today at 6:06pm, touchscreen wrote:
Good to see you alive procmkx!!! Just in time for hockey season good luck with those Red Wings. Are you going to share your phone conversation?
____________________________
Procmkm
Working On It
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Acca,
we have been teased way too many times. I'm not saying it's your fault, we understand that the crooks are the cause of our mental cruelness. How do we know for sure that this is it?

Procmkm
I Understand Your Cautiousness Of The Validity Of My Posts And Are Warranted As Such, But The Only Person On This Earth That Has The Authority Directly Involved With This Never Ending Saga Has Said It Is
OVER!!! AND I KNOW THAT IT IS! Please Give It Two Short Weeks For It To Come To Fruition.

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Today at 6:34pm, funado wrote:
Acca, any clue as to who this person of authority is?
TIA,
Funado
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Procmkm
More Than Just A Clue, This Particular Individual Has The Hammer, And It Is Someone In CMKX Lore From Way Back, Maybe A Sibling
Perhaps?

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Bikinipro
My guess is PM.
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Procmkm
Wow! For The Record I Never Said That!
Pretty Smart For A Blond! JK!!


A breath of fresh air you ARE
Thank you
Richard

Procmkm
Thanks Richard, I Will Be Back "tomorrow" For Sure, I Have Never been This Ecstatic And Excited, Never!


Pro do you think we will get notificaton through Transfer-online...?
Thanks

Procmkm
No, Different Outlet


Procmkm
Time to Rejoice And Celebrate, Never Was A Hobby For Me As Some Have Alluded To In The Past, Yet A Business With A Laymans Approach To The Job At Hand. I Hope You All Realize This! ~Acca Is Out, See You "tomorrow"!
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Teetime2
Can you share at the moment who we will hear from...If not I understand....Thanks Procmkx.....God bless you....

Procmkm
All I Can Say At This Time Is, IT'S LIFE CHANGING I For The Love Of God Can't Find A Caption More Fitting!! God Bless And Good Night (As I Perform Tebowing) LMAO

121 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:46 pm

MrsCK


Krugman Warns of "Gigantic Bank Run," "Emergency Bank Closing" and "New Lira"

Paul Krugman's latest post is extremely bearish, and he warns that "things are falling apart in Europe, not the center is holding"
Krugman warns that this could lead to a "gigantic bank-run" and "emergency bank closing".

Not only does Krugman warning of a massive bank run and bank holidays emergency but he warns of the euro breaking up and returning to Italy the Italian lira and even warns of similar problems confronting France.

"The question I'm trying to answer right now is how the final act will be played. At this point I'd guess soaring rates on Italian debt leading to a gigantic bank run, both because of fears about solvency Italian banks given a default and because of fear that Italy will end up leaving the euro. This then leads to emergency bank closing, and once that happens, a decision to drop the € and install the new lira. "

"Next stop, France."

COME ON ITALY!!! LEAVE...Stick it to Sarkozy!!

122 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:33 am

MrsCK


German Time:

123 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:19 pm

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*G20 draft leaves blanks on fx language, IMF funds
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CANNES, France | Thu Nov 3, 2011 11:51am EDT

Nov 3 (Reuters) - A draft G20 communique being worked on at a Group of 20 summit in southern *France focused on the need for a return to balanced growth but left blank clauses for phrasing on foreign exchange rate policies and on IMF resources.*

The draft, dated Nov. 2, agreed on an action plan for jobs and growth that all 20 major economies would participate in, but did not include details which are expected to come in an annexe to the final statement. *It committed to work towards a global monetary system that better reflected emerging economies but did not give a time frame.*

*It agreed that the composition of the IMF's Special Drawing Right basket should be adjusted and broadened over time "to reflect currencies' changing role and characteristics".*

G20 heads of states are meeting in the Riviera resort of Cannes on Thursday and Friday in the last gathering of France's presidency of the group.

124 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:58 pm

chevy#3


Sunday, November 06, 2011 1:57 AM



In Act of Desperation, G20 Asks Germany to Pledge its Gold for EFSF Rescue Fund, Bundesbank Refuses; Grateful for the Arrogance


The gall and arrogance of the G20 and Euro-nanny finance minister clowns is staggering.

German newspapers report that the G20 discussed asking Germany to pledge its gold to bail out Greece and the Piigs, and to fund the EFSF.

The Bundesbank, Germany's central bank said "We know this plan and we reject it."

One might think that would be enough to stop such idiotic talk, but one would be wrong. In spite of Bundesbank opposition, euro zone finance ministers will discuss the idea next week.

Please consider Bundesbank: central bank reserves will not help fund EFSF

The Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung (FAS) reported that Bundesbank reserves -- including foreign currency and gold -- would be used to increase Germany's contribution to the crisis fund, the European Financial Stability Facility (EFSF) by more than 15 billion euros ($20 billion).

The European Central Bank (ECB) would own the reserves, according to the paper, citing sources at the G20 meeting held in Cannes this week.

The Welt am Sonntag newspaper, citing similar plans, said 15 billion euros would come from special drawing rights (SDR) that the Bundesbank holds.

G20 leaders in Cannes discussed the idea that the European System of Central Banks could pawn their total foreign exchange reserves of 50-60 billion euros to a trust of the European crisis fund in the form of special drawing rights from the International Monetary Fund (IMF), the newspapers said.

"We know this plan and we reject it," a Bundesbank spokesman said.

The newspapers had said the issue was taken off the agenda at the G20 following Bundesbank opposition but that it would be debated on Monday at a Eurogroup meeting of euro zone finance ministers.
Grateful for the Arrogance

In spite of the stupidity of discussing something that is not going to happen, here are three reasons to be grateful they did.


The proposal highlights the desperation, blatant arrogance, and sheer pig-headedness of the G20 and Eurozone finance ministers.
The proposal shows that gold is money.
Sooner or later, one of these asinine proposals will will cause Germany to realize the EMU is a lost cause. The sooner Germany realizes that, the better off everyone will be.


ZeroHedge addresses the question why will this be debated?"






If France and Italy want to expand the EFSF, why don't they pledge their own gold rather than asking Germany to pledge its gold?

One possible answer is that any country dumb enough to pledge its gold will very quickly lose its AAA rating. However, the Euro-nanny finance minister clowns are probably not bright enough to figure that out.

Mike "Mish" Shedlock
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com

125 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:53 pm

windreader1


Here's a thought, make Greece sell its gold to pay for its debt. OOPS, guess that may be too basic.

126 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:14 pm

chevy#3


windreader1 wrote:Here's a thought, make Greece sell its gold to pay for its debt. OOPS, guess that may be too basic.
They got gold but lets hope they'll pull out like germany to print their own currency!!

HOMEABOUT USREQUEST INFORMATIONCan Greece's Gold Reserves Pay Off Debt
Thursday, May 6, 2010 by David Engstrom
As I awoke this morning and began my ritual of checking the world's Financial News, of course much of the banter is about Greece and how it may deal with its $405.7 billion of public debt. It occurred to me that no one has brought up the potential to use Greece's gold reserves to pay off its debt. Does Greece even have gold reserves? So, I did some checking.

Greece does have gold reserves and informal discussions have commenced as to the possibility of using that gold to pay the debt. Now when I say informal, I mean discussions like this one, however you have to believe behind closed doors all over the world, officials are raising the prospect. Currently Greece has $112.4 tonnes of gold worth some $4.2 billion based on a spot price of $1166. Barely enough to pay off 1% of its debt.

The possibility has also been raised that Greece may pull out of the Euro and create its own currency. Should that happen a million questions come up. Would the Euro strengthen? Would Greece back the new currency in part with Gold? What would they call a new currency - the Gyro? Will Greece sell its gold to pay off just 1% of its debt? What would happen to the gold price? Just to list a few.

At this point I'm not sure I want to or can even speculate as to all the answers so I won't pretend so. What I do feel, is that the minute gold does enter into the discussion at any level, whether it be to pay debt, back a currency or be sold, we will see gold prices rise. Any discussion would give credibility to gold and just the hint that it could be used to settle the debts of the world, would send prices rocketing.

One statistic I heard with respect to U.S. foreign debt is that our own gold reserves (if we have any) would have to be worth 10 times what gold is today in order to pay off our foreign debt. Would that make gold price predictions of $12,000 even $13,000 and ounce viable? Yeah! I think so. At least possible. But again, don't buy gold because you think it is going to make you rich.

If gold spot prices do rise to those levels, it may be easy to pay off debt, but going forward a gallon of gas and a gallon of milk may be $10, $15 even more. It would be a whole new world out there. This is likely one reason gold is holding steady, even though the Dollar is gaining enormous strength vs. the Euro.

Personally, I don't see how gold reserves can continue to be excluded from conversations about settling global debt. Why do central banks own it if it has no value, especially in times like this? And if Greece does not create its own currency or use its gold reserves to help mitigate the debt, then the only choice is to print Euros and bring hyperinflation to the doorstep of the European Community.

In turn that gives the U.S. license to creat even more debt as the world continues its efforts to inflate its way out of the growing debt crisis. Then, as inflation and gold go walking hand in hand into the sunset every night, we can watch the gold spot price climb off the gold charts every night along with them.

127 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:25 pm

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Greece is monetarily non-sovereign (http://rodgermmitchell.wordpress.com/2010/08/13/monetarily-sovereign-the-key-to-understanding-economics/).

A monetarily non-sovereign government can survive long -term only if it has money coming in from outside its borders. Germany survives on its positive balance of trade. There are two, and only two, solutions for Greece:

1. Return to Monetary Sovereignty by re-adopting its sovereign currency

or

2. The EU to give (not lend) euros to member nations as needed.There are no other long-term solutions. None. Any purported “solution” that is not #1 or #2 is doomed to failure.

Those who do not understand Monetary Sovereignty do not understand economics.

128 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:13 am

MrsCK


PICK #1....PICK #1....PLEASEEEEEEEEE PICK #1

THANKS PAN!!

129 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:00 pm

MrsCK


Late Sunday night intel in germany:

The DM2 purchases will arrive safely in sealed containers - open only when permission is given. How about a lock code?

130 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:37 pm

MrsCK


AHEMMMMMMMMMMM they are bugging out again! and what the heck is "special order"???

House Floor Activities
Legislative Day of November 07, 2011

Last Floor Action:
10:04:09 A.M. - The Speaker announced that the House do now adjourn pursuant to a previous special order. The next meeting is scheduled for 2:30 p.m. on November 10, 2011.

http://clerk.house.gov/floorsummary/floor.aspx

131 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:57 pm

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MrsCK wrote:AHEMMMMMMMMMMM they are bugging out again! and what the heck is "special order"???

House Floor Activities
Legislative Day of November 07, 2011

Last Floor Action:
10:04:09 A.M. - The Speaker announced that the House do now adjourn pursuant to a previous special order. The next meeting is scheduled for 2:30 p.m. on November 10, 2011.

http://clerk.house.gov/floorsummary/floor.aspx

They are conducting the EAS test on the 9th..wonder what the heck is going on????

132 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:15 pm

MrsCK


The Super Committee’s November 23 deadline for cutting Washington’s deficits by $1.2 trillion is now only 10 days away.

133 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:39 pm

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Sunday, November 13, 2011
Intel Behind the Scenes - Banking families are vacating their houses... Something major is coming down

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Intel Behind the Scenes - Banking families are vacating their houses... Something major is coming down
Posted By: Jordon [Send E-Mail]
Date: Sunday, 13-Nov-2011 19:27:56

From Kerry Cassidy's Blog:
Intel Behind the Scenes on the Bankers
According to a source, contractors and builders in Connecticut are reporting that banking families are vacating their houses. Suddenly and without explanation, whole families are leaving the state. Where they are going isn't known. This is one of the more chilling "signs" I've heard that something major is coming down with respect to the banks in the near future.
Additionally, a source who made a recent trip to Switzerland and met with a secret Swiss banker has revealed the hidden story behind how Swiss Bankers are choosing to deal the squeeze from the Americans (and presumably New World Order contingent) to reveal who their clients are... This crackdown on Americans with off-shore bank accounts also extends to those in other countries such as Saudi Arabia and UAE (United Arab Emirates), think Dubai.
Some bankers have folded and joined the ranks of the SEC turning over records and details against the long cherished code of secrecy (client privilege) that has made the Swiss banking industry so successful and respected worldwide. Others have not.
Without going into any detail, suffice to say that some bankers are risking their lives and reputations and livelihood to continue to safeguard their client's money. One can't help but to admire this tenacity. And what comes to mind is the era of the Nazis where the streets of cities like Zurich and Bern are no longer safe havens for those seeking to conduct business. Especially if it involves banking. Now the business is conducted behind closed doors in out of the way places and hidden vaults. Switzerland, hasn't stood alone for quite some time politically, choosing to align itself with various factions over the past few years. But the stronghold of banking has maintained a sort of island of secrecy even beyond the fluctuations in the winds of politics. Until now.
As Swiss bankers endeavor to maintain their integrity they say that the moving tide of this relentless new world order machine will eventually reach them and their clients. It's only a matter of time.


134 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:04 pm

w8tin


wow...i am speechless and that in and of itself is a rareity!

135 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:12 pm

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Panhead wrote:Sunday, November 13, 2011
Intel Behind the Scenes - Banking families are vacating their houses... Something major is coming down

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Intel Behind the Scenes - Banking families are vacating their houses... Something major is coming down
Posted By: Jordon [Send E-Mail]
Date: Sunday, 13-Nov-2011 19:27:56

From Kerry Cassidy's Blog:
Intel Behind the Scenes on the Bankers
According to a source, contractors and builders in Connecticut are reporting that banking families are vacating their houses. Suddenly and without explanation, whole families are leaving the state. Where they are going isn't known. This is one of the more chilling "signs" I've heard that something major is coming down with respect to the banks in the near future.
Additionally, a source who made a recent trip to Switzerland and met with a secret Swiss banker has revealed the hidden story behind how Swiss Bankers are choosing to deal the squeeze from the Americans (and presumably New World Order contingent) to reveal who their clients are... This crackdown on Americans with off-shore bank accounts also extends to those in other countries such as Saudi Arabia and UAE (United Arab Emirates), think Dubai.
Some bankers have folded and joined the ranks of the SEC turning over records and details against the long cherished code of secrecy (client privilege) that has made the Swiss banking industry so successful and respected worldwide. Others have not.
Without going into any detail, suffice to say that some bankers are risking their lives and reputations and livelihood to continue to safeguard their client's money. One can't help but to admire this tenacity. And what comes to mind is the era of the Nazis where the streets of cities like Zurich and Bern are no longer safe havens for those seeking to conduct business. Especially if it involves banking. Now the business is conducted behind closed doors in out of the way places and hidden vaults. Switzerland, hasn't stood alone for quite some time politically, choosing to align itself with various factions over the past few years. But the stronghold of banking has maintained a sort of island of secrecy even beyond the fluctuations in the winds of politics. Until now.
As Swiss bankers endeavor to maintain their integrity they say that the moving tide of this relentless new world order machine will eventually reach them and their clients. It's only a matter of time.



Wow..like rats off a sinking ship!!

136 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:11 pm

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run forest run!!!!!

137 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:13 pm

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Gente found this earlier....good stuff!

11/15/2011

Weekly Geopolitical News and Analysis20111114: The cabalists struggle in vain to stop the new financial system


These days, reading some of the Western corporate propaganda media, you get the feeling you are reading Axis news reports of imminent victory late during World War 2. The reality people can see with their own eyes contradicts their reports so much that only a diehard rump of the most thoroughly brainwashed now really believes the propaganda. No matter what wishful thinking headlines they conjure up about the IMF coming to the rescue, or the Feds printing more dollars or FRN’s coming to the rescue, the fact of the matter is that the cabal that hijacked the world’s financial system has lost. The criminal cabal is caput. Events this week and next will provide ample proof of this.

http://benjaminfulford.net/

138 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:37 pm

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Panhead wrote:Gente found this earlier....good stuff!

11/15/2011

Weekly Geopolitical News and Analysis20111114: The cabalists struggle in vain to stop the new financial system


These days, reading some of the Western corporate propaganda media, you get the feeling you are reading Axis news reports of imminent victory late during World War 2. The reality people can see with their own eyes contradicts their reports so much that only a diehard rump of the most thoroughly brainwashed now really believes the propaganda. No matter what wishful thinking headlines they conjure up about the IMF coming to the rescue, or the Feds printing more dollars or FRN’s coming to the rescue, the fact of the matter is that the cabal that hijacked the world’s financial system has lost. The criminal cabal is caput. Events this week and next will provide ample proof of this.

http://benjaminfulford.net/

Hope this guy is right....I'm ready-

139 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:56 am

w8tin


with you on that gente...as in all the way! Razz

140 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:34 am

MrsCK


11/16/2011 15:31 -0500

Citi's Willem Buiter whose succinct analysis a few weeks agosealed the coffin of the worthless EFSF, has just come out with another knock out punch this morning after telling Bloomberg TV what everyone else knows is true, but is terrified to say out loud: namely that, "time is running out fast." He adds: " I think we have maybe a few months -- it could be weeks, it could be days -- before there is a material risk of a fundamentally unnecessary default by a country like Spain or Italy which would be a financial catastrophe dragging the European banking system and North America with it. So they have to act now." In sum - a rehash of the Deutsche Bank pitchbook to the ECB we posted earlier, only in Mutually Assured Terms that would make even Hank Paulson blush. At this point Germany has an option: tell Europe to take a hike, or go balls to wall in bailing out 250 million European's early retirement packages. The ball is in Merkel's court, who unlike Citi, JPM, DB, and everyone else, has to worry about this fickle, and potentially pitchfork bearing, thing called "voters."

141 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:20 pm

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MrsCK wrote:11/16/2011 15:31 -0500

Citi's Willem Buiter whose succinct analysis a few weeks agosealed the coffin of the worthless EFSF, has just come out with another knock out punch this morning after telling Bloomberg TV what everyone else knows is true, but is terrified to say out loud: namely that, "time is running out fast." He adds: " I think we have maybe a few months -- it could be weeks, it could be days -- before there is a material risk of a fundamentally unnecessary default by a country like Spain or Italy which would be a financial catastrophe dragging the European banking system and North America with it. So they have to act now." In sum - a rehash of the Deutsche Bank pitchbook to the ECB we posted earlier, only in Mutually Assured Terms that would make even Hank Paulson blush. At this point Germany has an option: tell Europe to take a hike, or go balls to wall in bailing out 250 million European's early retirement packages. The ball is in Merkel's court, who unlike Citi, JPM, DB, and everyone else, has to worry about this fickle, and potentially pitchfork bearing, thing called "voters."

Thx CK-unfortunately, our "leadership" are morons, and rarely act when it is really necessary...endless talks are more their style.

142 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:44 pm

azdinar


They are trying to figure a way that they can make more money for themselves with the mess they had a hand in creating.

143 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:31 pm

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azdinar wrote:They are trying to figure a way that they can make more money for themselves with the mess they had a hand in creating.

YOU KNOW IT!! F*CKIN CROOKS!! These guys make the mafia look like Boy Scouts...

144 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Wed Nov 23, 2011 3:15 pm

MrsCK


GERMAN INTEL for Nov. 23:

When the real crash comes, the euro will fall by several percent within minutes - that's the signal.

There is no salvation for the euro more than the panic flight of capital from all over the United € has begun. Help, however, neither Bonds nor print € Euros. The Single Euro countries only have the option to opt out of the euro, before it collapses completely.

Banks are falling States, politicians helpless. And now attack on Germany: The funding agency was now a part of their debts off. A bad omen.

According to an insider info with the € collapse within 48 hours to be expected. We will see how many days you can still support the euro. He is lost, since the blinds are also no longer salable and the rich flee from all over the euro zone.

In Germany at all maturities over 10% more - in one day. The euro currency crisis starts fully. The panic flight from the entire € is in progress.

As it seems, has the market by the cackle of hens and €-wannabe dictators, fed up and now speaks itself I'm curious how long you can hold more gold and silver below. Do not forget, the market never errs.

If the presently term phase is reached, it usually lasts only a few more days, until the currency crashes.

145 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:11 am

MrsCK


Comment
from Harvey Organs: I guess you all heard that the Fed (backstopped by
the USA taxpayer) supplied massive liquidity to the world today by
entering into swap arrangements with various central banks. As I have
mentioned to you on previous occasions, we do not have a liquidity
problem but a solvency problem. This only kicks the can down the road
for another couple of months.
The world is broke and can never repay the
debt it owes.

GERMANY is NOT talking...so we wait. This is the reason I have not posted anything...back in a "wait break"...Everybody enjoy the Christmas Holiday season.


146 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:13 am

w8tin


you too CK [enjoy the Christmas Holiday season]...looks like we keep waiting - Darn!

147 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:45 pm

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I knew it, just another band-aid...Happy Holidays to you as well!!

148 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:49 pm

MrsCK


Couple of post from TODAY Dec. 1st from CMKXland.......really like it!!

By 737man - Thank you

Bank runs are ongoing. Financial institutions are out of cash. They are all broke. The central banks are lending dollars to institutions to keep the system alive...it must remain in place until the new one takes over...if the cabal were to be successful in killing the current system first before transition, the damage will be irreparable from what I understand. The system will not be allowed to collapse until the new system takes over. The settlements monies and the dinar go at the same time so the bush gang cannot capitalize first...the kloWn monies injection doesn't take effect until 12/5...date look familiar?

This is another kloWn maneuver to buy time. I hear the 'cash' ie US dollars are being injected into the DOA institutions like the outdated adrenaline harpoon directly into the heart muscle. It is now archaic and once worked but not anymore; it buys days and keeps collapse from happening before the correct 'switch' is flipped. TIC TOC
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Asia musta got a load of bad shrooms...their market is acting like they know the mystical global settlements are imminent or countries have been paid or Europe and the US have somehow triaged away all the Stephen King financial nightmare anomalies of the past 3 years...let the big dog eat...TIC TOC

Hang Seng...3:36PM local...
19,022.15
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By: Dizardos 8-)

I am not Bob or Harv, but I can say that so far everything did not go as hoped this week as far as I see it. I believe MC still has not received his money and this is a crucial component for the new system.

The entire system has been broken and it takes time to fix it. Arrests go on. I do not have the time currently to go into the finer details, but I can offer an introductory text that shows what we face.

http://files.meetup.com/196633/SILENT%20WEAPONS%20for%20QUIET%20WARS.pdf

The above document comes from the Bilderberg Group......the group tasked with the operationalisation of management policies as I see it. That is to say, the Bilderberg Group as one of the groups of the lower level elite carries out the wishes of the upper level elite which has controlled the world for centuries. The malicious intellect with which it is written proves its legitimacy.

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Fiat money VS. Treasury, Metal based currency. This is all part of the plan. It amazes me that at this point some don't see the WGS as very real and the only way this mess will be fixed. Our little company being paid will do little for an ailing economy. Even the Dinar folks realize there has been a blockage ahead of the Dinar...WGS! Lt.KK

149 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:19 am

MrsCK


FROM GERMANY:

So much for Geithner getting arrest in EU if he landed there...Guess IMF Christine threat don't mean crap either....CK

FROM GERMANY:

[9:15] THE PANIC MUST BE HUGE: lightning visit by Secretary Geithner at Draghi and Schäuble , Geithner backs Merkel's Crisis Plan
Shortly before the EU summit, U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner on a lightning visit to Europe has arrived. He first arrived in Frankfurt together with ECB president Mario Draghi.

Washington is urging the euro-zone countries have long to resolute
action in the debt crisis in order to regain lost confidence in the
markets. Geithner's visit was to present the seriousness of the situation.
He wants to push the Visited to print money. But we know from what Geithner's recent idea to become the leveraged EFSF is - nothing.

Geithner goes over dead bodies, if need be. We saw this at MF Global.

150 Re: World Economy part 2..rumors!!! on Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:38 pm

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Trying to keep the charade alive at all costs it seems!!

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