Ducks Aug. 4th

[10:33:50 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : good morning all

[10:34:09 04/08/09] mochasmom : if you read the article i posted, it xplains what will be discussed

[10:36:32 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : this is there options in regards to the unsc

[10:36:37 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : holding an open meeting in which Iraq and Kuwait would both speak;

[10:36:45 04/08/09] oom : should today tell us the story duck?

[10:36:59 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : releasing a press statement urging Iraq and Kuwait to continue negotiating a solution bilaterally;

[10:37:13 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : addressing some of the issues contained in the report on Iraq resolutions while negotiations proceed between Iraq and Kuwait;

[10:37:26 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : holding off on any action until Iraq and Kuwait come to some arrangement themselves; or

[10:37:39 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : deferring

[10:38:15 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : the issue at the experts level until agreement is found
on a resolution

[10:38:17 04/08/09] mochasmom : deferring to who

[10:38:37 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : that is if iraq and kuwait dont agree only

[10:38:51 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : deffered to a later time

[10:39:01 04/08/09] duceduce2 : so there is still the chance they are already in agreement

[10:39:01 04/08/09] goodinsa : will they agree?

[10:39:08 04/08/09] mochasmom : and will we know the answer today do you think

[10:39:35 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : if they have reached an agreement then lifting of remaining sanctions will be the other option '

[10:39:36 04/08/09] dennisalexander : than there is no way that we will se the lifting today..or tomorow...it will be delayed...?

[10:40:18 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : today not sure tomorrow maybe hard to say with u.n


[10:40:24 04/08/09] mochasmom : whats your take duck

[10:40:31 04/08/09] duceduce2 : do you have an inkling

[10:41:02 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : but things not going well with kuwait because of the meetings being moved back


[10:41:02 04/08/09] @ sarisus : everyday is a mystery......


[10:41:24 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : so lets wait and see what comes from unsc


[10:41:38 04/08/09] mochasmom : ah, back to square one


[10:41:43 04/08/09] mochasmom : thanks duck!

[10:41:50 04/08/09] dennisalexander : and iyo - slim chances to have the sanctions lifted..


[10:42:07 04/08/09] Jerry : so sounds like we have more waiting, lol


[10:42:10 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : kuwait says one thing and does something else arrrggg

[10:42:47 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : lets wait for report first before we chunk in the towel

[10:42:50 04/08/09] goodinsa : wow so probably not this week?


[10:43:16 04/08/09] jtudor : why not force Kuw hand by saying get on board or get nothing?


[10:43:22 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : how did we go from tomorrow to next week


[10:43:55 04/08/09] @ day dreamer : duck how long would the unsc allow kuwait to keep iraq from coming out of chapter 7,,,,


[10:44:06 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : they cant throw any more resoulations in


[10:44:33 04/08/09] @ sarisus : that's good to hear!


[10:44:38 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : they can play this game untill end of year if they choice


[10:44:45 04/08/09] dennisalexander : if i would be iraq - i would not be very nice ... at this point..


[10:44:47 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : sanctions end then


[10:45:15 04/08/09] candle : would it rv at eoy then ducky


[10:45:16 04/08/09] @ day dreamer : but kuwait stands to loose a lot if that happens ..


[10:45:28 04/08/09] duceduce2 : seems strange then because their bargaining chip ends at years end then


[10:45:39 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : its not an option that iraq would like but is very real if kuwait doesnt comply


[10:45:42 04/08/09] dennisalexander : and at the end of the year....they will start all over again - because at the end of the year - only 1859/dec 2008 expire...


[10:46:24 04/08/09] @ sarisus : Doesn't Kuwait want help with their natural gas pipeline before the eoy?


[10:47:11 04/08/09] @ day dreamer : kuwait wants in on the infastructer in iraq i would think they would comply


[10:47:26 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : da you have to remember we leave combat troops in aug next year


[10:48:15 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : aug of next year all combat troops leave


[10:48:24 04/08/09] @ day dreamer : right

[10:48:39 04/08/09] dennisalexander : un is steping the line now -IMO- iraq is not posing a threat anymore - so everyother reason invented by UN is a game...


[10:48:43 04/08/09] oom : duck will today tell us the story on r/v or not?


[10:48:50 04/08/09] SCOOBYDOO : so is it still looking good for his month


[10:48:50 04/08/09] mochasmom : duck, is there something else that kuwait wants that we're not seeing?


[10:48:51 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : lets wait for report first


[10:48:55 04/08/09] @ sarisus : today's report will be interesting.


[10:49:14 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : dont know have to wait to see


[10:49:15 04/08/09] mochasmom : it appears they agreed to work out the border issue, the 5.2% looked like it was agreed to, perhaps we are missing something


10:49:25 04/08/09] jtudor : Report comes out after the 3pm meeting?


[10:49:30 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : will find out if this doesnt work out


[10:49:52 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : im as confused as yall


[10:50:06 04/08/09] @ sarisus : thanks duck! I appreciate your info and opinion!


[10:50:19 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : its all opinion lol


[10:50:35 04/08/09] goodinsa : What changed since yesterday?


[10:51:15 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : dony just waiting and watching


[10:51:21 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : dont know


[10:51:32 04/08/09] @ day dreamer : what grounds would unsc have to keep iraq under chapter 7?


[10:51:50 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : wait i can give you the pumped up version


[10:52:59 04/08/09] mochasmom : theres got to be something we're missing


[10:53:32 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : this goes to the debt issue if a country hasnt settled
all factors with a debtor country they can demand money in exchange for what
ever they have been argueing about


[10:54:00 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : and then back in debt so resoulutations wont be lifted


[10:54:18 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : but this is worse case so lets wait and see


[10:54:28 04/08/09] candle : so duck it could mean that Sir....barack didnt pay off the debt


[10:54:44 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : you guys go crazy for the smalliest of things


[10:55:10 04/08/09] goodinsa : thats duck talk for dont worry be happy


[10:55:12 04/08/09] karcar : ducky...good morning! So you'e just giving us a worst case scenario?


[10:55:12 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : lets wait and see what unsc has to say


[10:55:32 04/08/09] dennisalexander : The US sees some potential benefit in resolving certain issues in advance of the Iraqi elections scheduled for January 2010, even in
the absence of a final settlement between Iraq and Kuwait.


[10:55:34 04/08/09] oom : 25 billion seems like a trivial amount and if the u s has put pressure on kuwait then whats the problem---the u s could pay that out of pocket change


[10:55:41 04/08/09] jtudor : after 3pm duck?


[10:55:44 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : yes kar nothing more


[10:56:03 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : after 3pm


[10:56:18 04/08/09] dennisalexander : The US is the lead country on Iraq issues in general and the UK is the lead on Iraq/Kuwait issues


[10:57:09 04/08/09] mochasmom : seems silly to drag this out 5 mor months, relations will really be bad if that happens


[10:58:38 04/08/09] mochasmom : so duck, all that came from the article/report i posted earlier,correct


[10:58:49 04/08/09] oom : from what i have read on here as well as other forums---it appeared iraq and kuwait was in aggreement on everything


[10:59:14 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : yes mocha


[10:59:22 04/08/09] mochasmom : At press time there was no consensus among members on the desirability of holding a debate in which both Iraq and Kuwait would speak.


[10:59:26 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : i try not to make this stuff up lol


[10:59:33 04/08/09] Chief53 : So Duck.....not time to freak out yet?


[10:59:58 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : thanks chief thats what im saying IF they agree


[11:00:07 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : we win IF not we wait


[11:00:39 04/08/09] noced71 : "i don't make stuff up"......thats why we like the quacker


[11:00:42 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : lets see what the unsc says


[11:00:58 04/08/09] jtudor : Can it be stated specifically what the disagreement is now? I guess I missed that part.


[11:01:11 04/08/09] mochasmom : In addition to these highly political issues, the closure of the various other resolutions concerning Iraq involves complex technical issues which will not necessarily be resolved quickly.


[11:01:19 04/08/09] mochasmom : what are these resolutions?

11:01:23 04/08/09] oom : will u n announcement be made public today after meeting??

[11:01:40 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : no one is saying they havnt settled


[11:01:54 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : what im saying is worse case thing only


[11:02:33 04/08/09] mochasmom : havent read it yet, please everyone read it


[11:03:05 04/08/09] mochasmom : i believe they can agree to lift and cont. working to
implement like UN wants


[11:03:09 04/08/09] mochasmom : under their umbrella


[11:03:14 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : this part i like >>>members have not yet decided
how to proceed after receiving the report


[11:03:18 04/08/09] mochasmom : thats what i'm hoping for


[11:03:30 04/08/09] Chief53 : Duck....I just believe everyone has been on pins and needles over this thing

[11:03:32 04/08/09] jtudor : Will the report mention the agreement or just that the sanctions have been lifted?


[11:03:35 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : on Council resolutions concerning Iraq. It is possible that the Council will adopt a resolution in August but unlikely that
action will be taken in all outstanding areas


[11:05:05 04/08/09] mochasmom : yes duck that is promising


[11:05:09 04/08/09] oom : does everything relating to sanctions have to be in place ti r/v?


[11:06:46 04/08/09] Chief53 : So in the words of Jim C arey in the movie "Dumb &
Dumber"........"So you're saying we have a chance!"


[11:07:02 04/08/09] oom : duck does all sanctions have to be lifted before a r/v can happen?


[11:08:01 04/08/09] @ day dreamer : no oom that's what i was just realzing .....the money part of the sanctions could be lifted and other part could go till eoy.....is
that correct ducky?


[11:09:05 04/08/09] oom : wouldn't the money the u n held in escrow pay kuwait?


[11:09:11 04/08/09] karcar : That's what I thought dd...


[11:09:54 04/08/09] mochasmom : options include: • keeping the issue at the experts level until agreement is found on a resolution addressing the status of all previous
resolutions; • holding an open meeting in which Iraq and Kuwait would both
speak; • releasing a press statement urging Iraq and Kuwait to continue
negotiating a solution bilaterally; • addressing some of the issues contained
in the report on Iraq resolutions while negotiations proceed between Iraq and
Kuwait; • holding off on any action until Iraq and Kuwait come to some
arrangement themselves; or • deferring action until October when the present mandate expires for the High-Level Coordinator for the issue of missing Kuwaiti and third-country nationals and the repatriation of Kuwaiti property, Gennady
Tarasov.

[10:59:26 04/08/09] @ duck2000 : i try not to make this stuff up lol

[11:00:39 04/08/09] noced71 : "i don't make stuff up"......thats why we like the quacker

Somebody tell noced71 that the key wording in ducks comment was "TRY"...HE TRY'S NOT!! TO MAKE THIS STUFF UP!!

FINALLY duck admits he makes stuff up but try's not to!!!

no comment......not worth commenting on.......

thumper wrote:no comment......not worth commenting on.......

lolol you just DID thumpie