Windreader Stating FACTS at nonuts

[20:01:54 20/08/09] Carol D : just read that Duck said not this year for rv
[20:01:57 20/08/09] windreader1 : this was posted b4 the UNAMI resolution
[20:02:06 20/08/09] readytogo : i thought they got back the DFI fund?
[20:02:18 20/08/09] clem : Carol where did you read that please
[20:02:24 20/08/09] windreader1 : once the UNAMI resolution was passed, several individuals claimed that Chapter VII had been lifted
[20:02:33 20/08/09] Carol D : chat posted clem
[20:03:09 20/08/09] windreader1 : I posted several postings to that stating it was not true, those posts are still here if anyone is interested in reading them
[20:03:13 20/08/09] country70girl : But why move "7" under UNAMI and still not be "considered" lifted, Wind?
[20:03:24 20/08/09] readytogo : Wind.... what did u make of the article interviewing citizens of Iraq and Kuwait concerning Chapt 7?
[20:03:47 20/08/09] Carol D : there are so many items under chapter 7...but thought the ones needed for rv was pased
[20:03:48 20/08/09] windreader1 : this week I again posted another article showing why Chapter VII could not have been terminated based on the UNAMI resolution, that is under the UN thread
[20:04:01 20/08/09] windreader1 : okay, let me catch up on the quesitons
[20:04:28 20/08/09] windreader1 : The DFI fund has not yet been turned over to IRAQ, it is still under the control of the UN
[20:04:46 20/08/09] Carol D : windreader are you sure?
[20:05:04 20/08/09] windreader1 : long story on UNAMI, let me see if I can sum it up
[20:05:08 20/08/09] Carol D : they are holding 60 billion from them right?
[20:05:20 20/08/09] @ Neno : Money has been turned over to Iraq. What money is still in LEW
[20:05:42 20/08/09] @ Neno : No it went to a totall of 108 billion
[20:05:55 20/08/09] Carol D : Neno I thought it was turned over to them too..and in that case their assets are unfrozen, right?
[20:06:04 20/08/09] windreader1 : No, neno it has not yet been turned over. The report from the IAMB is due to the SC this month
[20:06:16 20/08/09] @ Neno : lol, that is the specualted question for all
[20:06:18 20/08/09] readytogo : that is what i thought too carol
[20:06:26 20/08/09] windreader1 : That report recommends turning over the DFI fund to COFE, but the UN as not yet acted on it
[20:06:53 20/08/09] windreader1 : the DFI fund is not the same as the frozen assets
[20:06:53 20/08/09] @ Neno : I didn't say it was the dfi, but I didn't say that it wasn't ether, We have nothing that indicates it was or wasn't
[20:07:04 20/08/09] poor : windreader1 Yep, not until US says its OK....just my opinion
[20:07:21 20/08/09] @ Neno : I understand that, but there are different opinions on this heavily
[20:07:35 20/08/09] windreader1 : then I don't know what it is that you are asking neno
[20:07:52 20/08/09] readytogo : my opinions are not heavy...they carry much weight...lol
[20:07:53 20/08/09] windreader1 : The DFI fund is still under the control of the UN and that is the big account
[20:08:05 20/08/09] @ Neno : Not asking anything but to state that nothing is indicating the truth by ones speculated thought
[20:08:29 20/08/09] windreader1 : let me get back to UNAMI--there were two diferent versions of the draft resolution
[20:08:33 20/08/09] @ Neno : you right, others right.. There is nothing cvoncrete to indicate ither
[20:09:02 20/08/09] whitenuckle : IMF cannot or will not give a loan to a country that cannot repay wiyh a valid accepted standard currence right?
[20:09:10 20/08/09] clem : I am confused the chat copied at 18:20 today does not even have Duck talking in it how can he say next yr Please clarify )
[20:09:16 20/08/09] windreader1 : I did a word by word comparison of the two documents. The second draft which became the final resolution was legally expanded to give more authority to UNAMI
[20:09:28 20/08/09] @ Neno : I now what the Offices of the UN has said in their email responces to some.. And that is... Iraq is not under Chapter VII.. It is just not verifiable by official Docs yets as i indicated in MY email to all
[20:09:45 20/08/09] readytogo : clem! that is a good thing!
[20:09:54 20/08/09] windreader1 : That would allow any items that still need resolution that are under Chapter VII to be moved to the UNAMI program for resolution
[20:09:55 20/08/09] poor : whitenuckle No loan to a country that could implode at any moment.
[20:09:55 20/08/09] @ Neno : SO, doesn't mean you are the right resource and others are wrong.. Visa Versa
[20:10:05 20/08/09] windreader1 : that would accomplish several things for the SC
[20:10:09 20/08/09] Carol D : Neno that would be verified when maliki announces it, right?
[20:10:20 20/08/09] windreader1 : first it gets them off the hot seat on who to side with, Iraq or Kuwait
[20:10:32 20/08/09] clem : Ok???? Did I miss something what about duck and not until next yr just trying to understand
[20:10:39 20/08/09] windreader1 : second, it would allow them to terminate Chapter VII
[20:10:55 20/08/09] @ Neno : I could be but I want to see it on the Officail DOC.. I belive that it is done and they are waiting for something unknown to us that is holding it up
[20:11:05 20/08/09] readytogo : clem..... he said it .... but i don't thing he meant it.... imho
[20:11:21 20/08/09] windreader1 : Neno, you need to read what I posted under the UN thread, basically what the UN put out in their emails was a lot of misinformation
[20:11:23 20/08/09] whitenuckle : my thoughts also neno!!!
[20:11:42 20/08/09] Angelic44 : ok yall I am lost here
[20:11:43 20/08/09] poor : Need to glean who the players are that comprise UNAMI
[20:11:47 20/08/09] clem : Ok great I thought it was in the copied chat, I am alittle slow tonight
[20:11:48 20/08/09] windreader1 : second, a new resolution has to be passed to terminate Chapter VII, this is per the SC rules of procedure
[20:12:01 20/08/09] windreader1 : a resolution that did not establish a program cannot cancel a program
[20:12:09 20/08/09] @ Neno : [20:10:20] windreader1 : first it gets them off the hot seat on who to side with, Iraq or Kuwait<-- I choose to side with both and read again what the UN emaails said.. Iraq says this but not Officail i undersatn, but Kuwait.. They are not saying anything of late
[20:12:16 20/08/09] readytogo : What if they were telling the truth in the emails and the "official" documents are misinformation.... it could happen
[20:12:23 20/08/09] @ Neno : I DID, and still feel the way I do..
[20:12:35 20/08/09] windreader1 : Now, my opinion is that a backdoor deal has been reached, I said so back b4 the UNAMI resolution was passed
[20:12:50 20/08/09] windreader1 : but the SC has to pass another resolution to make if official
[20:12:55 20/08/09] @ Neno : There may be a need for a New resolution, but again that might be the one we are waiting on
[20:13:00 20/08/09] windreader1 : until they do, Chapter VII is still in effect
[20:13:04 20/08/09] readytogo : backdoor deal..... it is binding
[20:13:18 20/08/09] poor : The identity of the real members of the UNAMI will be quite enlightening
[20:13:20 20/08/09] Carol D : windreader do you think something will come out in their next meeting..sept 8?
[20:13:21 20/08/09] @ Neno : Now you talking windreader.. your opinion.. like that
[20:13:22 20/08/09] whitenuckle : The simple fact that the IMF will give them the loan should put that one to bed, and it just hasnt been made public yet
[20:13:32 20/08/09] readytogo : who are they poor?
[20:13:33 20/08/09] windreader1 : Neno--what you just said are both the same, yes it is a new resolution and yes that is what we are waiting for
[20:13:49 20/08/09] OU812? : windreader1............how do you explain the realse of the money?
[20:13:49 20/08/09] poor : Need to recon that......
[20:13:59 20/08/09] @ Neno : Now way is it in a total effect with the econmic proceedures bein expelled on
[20:14:10 20/08/09] windreader1 : let me say it this way, part is my opinion and part is based on the UN documents and their rules of procedures
[20:14:25 20/08/09] windreader1 : nothing is binding until it is in writing
[20:14:34 20/08/09] @ Neno : Only New to the effect for public view and official acknowledgement I Think
[20:15:05 20/08/09] Angelic44 : so what are we saying here
[20:15:11 20/08/09] @ Neno : Rules and proceedures get changed everyday and exspecially with this animal
[20:15:57 20/08/09] @ Neno : I agree with you on the nothing is binding until writting.. But the writting is on the wall is all that i guess i am trying to say
[20:16:53 20/08/09] @ Neno : You and I are not UN Rocket Brains, that is a FACT, YOU may understand alot about the UN site, but many others have Opinions as you are I..
[20:17:01 20/08/09] candle : and then it LOPS
[20:17:31 20/08/09] poor : Neno PM
[20:17:36 20/08/09] @ Neno : busy poor
[20:17:40 20/08/09] @ Neno : in a minute
[20:17:45 20/08/09] candle : 2 cents equals a nickel i think
[20:17:47 20/08/09] windreader1 : there have been a couple of accounts released, one was from the oil-for -food program
[20:18:17 20/08/09] windreader1 : there was also a frozen assets account that was released, these are different from the DFI account
[20:18:36 20/08/09] @ Neno : but they were added to the DFI
[20:18:40 20/08/09] candle : windreader1...how is your daughter
[20:18:46 20/08/09] lmoore551 : is Duck's chat posted?
[20:18:55 20/08/09] @ Neno : the big one out od switzerland was I know.. think it was 48 Billion
[20:19:02 20/08/09] windreader1 : Neno--everyone is entitled to their opinion, I would never disagree with that
[20:19:11 20/08/09] country70girl : Duck did not have a chat he had an opinion, but I think all is well.
[20:19:13 20/08/09] @ Neno : TY
[20:19:36 20/08/09] candle : lmoore551.. No rv this year, period end of story
[20:19:38 20/08/09] lmoore551 : thanks country
[20:19:44 20/08/09] @ Neno : duck just bought time away to get caught up
[20:20:04 20/08/09] windreader1 : I am not in contention with you over this
[20:20:07 20/08/09] candle : Neno...do u truly believe that
[20:20:08 20/08/09] country70girl : Not so fast imoore551, that is a matter of opinion, lol
[20:20:26 20/08/09] @ Neno : I am becaue of the fact many others have opinikns too
[20:20:47 20/08/09] elaine1 : please let wind finish
[20:21:05 20/08/09] Carol D : Personally, I don't see how Iraq can wait that much longer to rv
[20:21:13 20/08/09] Jerry : poor duck - din't have time to catch his breath b4 getting drilled with RV questions
[20:21:31 20/08/09] candle : Jerry...that's the business
[20:21:34 20/08/09] country70girl : Bingo Jerry
[20:21:46 20/08/09] @ Neno : I wasn't here Jerry until after the fact but figuring it out was the easy part
[20:22:05 20/08/09] OU812? : Jerry....Hey he puts himself out there.
[20:22:07 20/08/09] windreader1 : this is information that anyone can go to the UN website and verify for themselves,
[20:22:28 20/08/09] @ Neno : and they have come to many different equations
[20:22:38 20/08/09] @ Neno : including I
[20:22:49 20/08/09] Carol D : windreader...it's there..just always hard to interpt it correctly
[20:23:03 20/08/09] windreader1 : I don
[20:23:14 20/08/09] @ Neno : Ty for the visit
[20:23:39 20/08/09] OU812? : Neno....Yeah you put yourself out there also ....."Neck on the chopping block" as it were.
[20:23:49 20/08/09] @ Neno : and debate on who knows what anout the UN site with the right understanding...
[20:23:49 20/08/09] country70girl : Thanks Wind.
[20:24:04 20/08/09] windreader1 : I don't post information that I have not researched to the inth degree, that is why I say most is fact, when it is opinion I say so, that lets people make up their own mind on what they want to believe
[20:24:17 20/08/09] @ Neno : been on that block for years and will stay there according to many from other areas
[20:24:21 20/08/09] Jerry : candle / OU i agree he puts the info out there, but i'm also saying he has the right to quit providing that info as he sees fit
[20:24:34 20/08/09] Carol D : thanks windreader...it helps alot
[20:24:34 20/08/09] @ Neno : Good as all should
[20:24:36 20/08/09] @ Neno : TY
[20:25:03 20/08/09] jackie01 : windreader we need you more often

YOU ARE OUTSTANDING...........WIND!!!!!!! YOU GO GIRL!!!!!!

proving once again how lost they are over there.......too funny.

hehehehehe

I appreciate your opinion Wind and your stick-to-it-ness (not stick-it-to-em) during the interchange between you and Neno. People will learn eventually what is "fact" and what isn't. While it may have appeared to be a 'contest' of opinions, it is evident (1) that you did NOT go over there to challenge Neno to a big debate and (2)That neno doesn't read with clarity any better than I do sometimes (apparently), LOL. Finally, considering how 'tired' this little debate over time has made me, I'm just going to take your word for it, trusting your integrity!

OWL wrote:I appreciate your opinion Wind and your stick-to-it-ness (not stick-it-to-em) during the interchange between you and Neno. People will learn eventually what is "fact" and what isn't. While it may have appeared to be a 'contest' of opinions, it is evident (1) that you did NOT go over there to challenge Neno to a big debate and (2)That neno doesn't read with clarity any better than I do sometimes (apparently), LOL. Finally, considering how 'tired' this little debate over time has made me, I'm just going to take your word for it, trusting your integrity!

Thank You. That is the first time I had been in the chat since CK was banned. I have stayed out of it because I knew my comments would completely contradict information from other individuals. There is a thread from one of Duck's chats, were I posted information regarding misinformation on chapter VII, which is exactly the type of problem that I am referring too. The only reason I got involved in this conversation was to set the record straight on what I had said. I had learned that another person was making statements in the chatroom that misrepresented some of the information that I had posted. Unfortunately, it evolved into an argument that was not warranted. I make every attempt to distinguish between the research facts that I post and what is my opinion of those facts. I do not make any predictions regarding the RV. I have never claimed to have any inside intel regarding the rate or date. The only information that I post is what can be supported by the research of articles, documents, rules and procedures, websites etc.

i think the good lord has blessed us with you windreader its good to be blessed

windreader1 wrote:

OWL wrote:I appreciate your opinion Wind and your stick-to-it-ness (not stick-it-to-em) during the interchange between you and Neno. People will learn eventually what is "fact" and what isn't. While it may have appeared to be a 'contest' of opinions, it is evident (1) that you did NOT go over there to challenge Neno to a big debate and (2)That neno doesn't read with clarity any better than I do sometimes (apparently), LOL. Finally, considering how 'tired' this little debate over time has made me, I'm just going to take your word for it, trusting your integrity!

Thank You. That is the first time I had been in the chat since CK was banned. I have stayed out of it because I knew my comments would completely contradict information from other individuals. There is a thread from one of Duck's chats, were I posted information regarding misinformation on chapter VII, which is exactly the type of problem that I am referring too. The only reason I got involved in this conversation was to set the record straight on what I had said. I had learned that another person was making statements in the chatroom that misrepresented some of the information that I had posted. Unfortunately, it evolved into an argument that was not warranted. I make every attempt to distinguish between the research facts that I post and what is my opinion of those facts. I do not make any predictions regarding the RV. I have never claimed to have any inside intel regarding the rate or date. The only information that I post is what can be supported by the research of articles, documents, rules and procedures, websites etc.

from what i read.....you showed a lot of class, something they are not used to over there.....

Agree with thumper, you are a class act...a very smart class act

no facts just her opinion she didnt get it and neither have the rest of you !LMAO this is why you all are outcasts no brains!LOL

john j wrote:no facts just her opinion she didnt get it and neither have the rest of you !LMAO this is why you all are outcasts no brains!LOL

First, the insults are totally out of line and are a very unfavorable reflection of yourself.

Second, if you want to debate the issues, I will be more than glad to accomodate you. You will, however, have to come with more than just insults and innuendos.

Why are you here then John? What have YOU gotten right? Or what have you even brought to the table? NOTHING!

It is easy to insult but alot harder to debate with facts. Man up and see what you can do to move beyond the playground and speak intelligently. Bring it on.

john j or whoever you are,you are a very petty little man,to insult someone you do not know shows your intelligence, looks like this is ban time mods,ok

Well Duck or whomever you really are.....if your not interested in her or our information.....carry your ass back to Numbnuts Place and follow whatever the fantasy of the week is over there.

PS..Hope your enjoying the warm weather down there in the cesspool by the bayou!..pretty smelly about now ain't it?

john j wrote:no facts just her opinion she didnt get it and neither have the rest of you !LMAO this is why you all are outcasts no brains!LOL

Hey john, lick my sweaty sack........

dirt14 wrote:john j or whoever you are,you are a very petty little man,to insult someone you do not know shows your intelligence, looks like this is ban time mods,ok

I just want to point out the obvious bias in dirt's comment.
Dirt, I dont know you and do not want to offend you, but feel like i should point out the flaws in your comment.
I dont know Windreader, nor do I know john j. However, I believe your post was nearly as sad as john j's. It does not show someone's intelligence to insult a person that they do not know.(I dont know GW, but could insult him with fairly intelligent comments)
The purpose of a forum is to communicate thoughts between people that may or may not know each other. Basing the quality of interactions and their demeanor on 'knowing' someone instead of what is actually said is petty as well. I dont know you, but I dont think that is a prerequisite for my intelligence to be in question if I disagree with what you posted. That said, you should also know that I do not agree with john j, and do believe his level of intelligence is lacking. Unfortunately, so is yours with the comments you made.

My second and final point in your comment that shows a little more about you is the fact that you are asking the mods to do the opposite of what this forum is supposed to be about. This place is for anyone to post anything...I assume that is. I didnt think people were banned here, but instead welcomed to get things off their chest. I believe I have read that posts are not deleted, and their are no TOS. If we here at Outcast start wanting to ban people, then this place will turn into just what most of us left at other sites.....a place of high school drama instead of what this place is: a site of information, links, and thoughts on a long term speculation.

Wind, I appreciate your post and hard work. Dirt, I appreciate yours but feel it is as negative as john j's.
CK, thanks for the vehicle to say what I feel.

freqlink,thats the first time ive everposted anything negative on any site,but DID you read what he said?there comes a time when enough is enough,and i agree 2 wrongs dont make a right, but if that is who i think it is , they just want to say their opinion and have everyone go "oh, ah"when they are guessing just like some of the other gurus", plus dont appriciate what point youre making,sorry about the bad day!

I agree dirt!!!!!!!!!!

freqlink wrote:
Wind, I appreciate your post and hard work. Dirt, I appreciate yours but feel it is as negative as john j's.
CK, thanks for the vehicle to say what I feel.

Not a problem...glad you can say how you feel here...but I do not agree with who you directed this at..Dirt....when in fact it should be JohnJ!! Dirt has never caused any problems here...wish I could say the same for JohnJ.

I agree Johnj should be banned because I'm sick of his crap!! But we are not ban happy here..so I hope John/Duck will just go back to his guru place and leave us alone.

Please remember we didn't make this place to be wrapped up in all the BS on all the other forums.....we made this place to be left alone to do our own thing...so if JohnJ or anybody else wants to come here and DISRESPECT windreader or our members that interact with us everyday...I'll can your sorry arse...so keep it up JohnDuckie.